Listening to America
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Listening to America
Listening to America aims to "light out for the territories," traveling less visited byways and taking time to see this immense, extraordinary country with fresh eyes while listening to the many voices of America's past, present, and future. Led by noted historian and humanities scholar Clay Jenki...
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#1697 The State of the Union as Political Theater
Frequent guest host David Horton welcomes Thomas Jefferson to the podcast to discuss political theater and State of the Union addresses. Although Jeff...
#1696 Assessing America's National Parks & Public Lands at 250
Clay's conversation with Char Miller, an endowed professor of environmental history at Pomona College and author of more than a dozen highly regarded...
#1695 New Ken Burns Documentary on Henry David Thoreau
Clay's conversation with Erik and Christopher Ewers, the directors of the upcoming three-part documentary on the life and achievements of Henry David...
#1694 Is a Constitutional Convention Even Possible?
Clay's conversation with historian Beau Breslin about the nuts and bolts of a constitutional convention in America. Neither Clay nor Beau thinks such...
#1693 Downsizing and Henry David Thoreau
Guest host Russ Eagle interviews Clay about his ambitious downsizing project. For several decades, Clay has explored the world of Thoreau's great book...
#1692 The Crisis of the Public Lands
Clay joins journalist Jonathan Thompson, publisher of The Land Desk on Substack and author of Sagebrush Empire: How a Remote Utah County Became the Ba...
#1691 Was it Shakespearean Tragedy or Greek Tragedy?
Clay interviews the award-winning historian Joe Ellis about America's tragic legacy of slavery, and about the dispossession of American Indians from t...
#1690 Mount Rushmore: Its Back Story and the Continuing Controversy
Clay welcomes author Matthew Davis to talk about his new book, Biography of a Mountain: The Making and Meaning of Mount Rushmore. How did it happen t...
#1689 Nat and Mikey Survived!
Clay interviews the adventurous Brits Nat and Mikey, school teachers who got it into their heads to float the entire Missouri and Mississippi River co...
#1688 Ten Things About Foreign Policy in the Age of Jefferson
Clay's favorite guest, Dr. Lindsay Chervinsky, makes her first 2026 appearance to discuss foreign policy in the administrations of George Washington,...
#1687 The Sinking of the Edmund Fitzgerald, 50 Years Later
Clay joins author John U. Bacon of Ann Arbor, Michigan, whose book, The Gales of November: The Untold Story of the Edmund Fitzgerald, takes a new look...
#1686 Venezuela, Thomas Jefferson and American Ideals
Clay and guest host David Horton of Radford University discuss the global implications of America's recent incursion into the sovereign nation of Vene...
#1685 The Presidents and Political Theater
Clay welcomes one of his favorite guests, Dr. Lindsay Chervinsky, back to the program to talk about political theater in American presidential history...
#1684 America at 250: How Did We Get Here?
Clay welcomes Colorado historian Walter Borneman to the program. Borneman has written more than a dozen books, from the events at Lexington and Concor...
#1683 Writing the American West in a Time of Disillusionment
Clay welcomes eminent western historian Paul Hutton for a discussion of his new book, The Undiscovered Country: Triumph, Tragedy, and the Shaping of...
#1682 How Do Rivers Work?
Clay talks with Professor Ellen Wohl of Colorado State University about the magical ways of rivers. Professor Wohl is the author of a new book, Follow...
#1681 Joseph Ellis Returns with a New Book
One of Clay's favorite historians, Joe Ellis, has just published his 14th book, The Great Contradiction: The Tragic Side of the American Founding. Hi...
#1680 The Continuing River Adventures of Nat and Mikey
The two intrepid British adventurers, Natalia and Mikey, who came to America to float the entire Missouri and Mississippi River corridor in a canoe, h...
#1679 Our Thanksgiving Show
Guest host Nolan Johnson and Clay talk about the history of Thanksgiving, or what John Adams might call the uses and misuses of the Thanksgiving holid...
#1678 The No Kings Protests in Historical Context
Frequent guest host David Horton and Clay discuss America's current political paralysis and the deep frustration and cynicism of the American people i...
#1677 Final Frontiers: Lewis and Clark and the American Space Program
Clay talks with veteran NASA astronaut Tom Jones, who flew four Space Shuttle missions for a total of 53 days, 49 minutes in space. Clay outlined a li...
#1676 American Presidents and the Press
Clay and his popular guest, Lindsay Chervinsky, discuss the history of American presidents and the fourth estate. Almost all presidents are frustrated...
#1675 What Is Habeas Corpus and Why Does It Matter?
Clay and historian Beau Breslin discuss the doctrine of habeas corpus and its role in the current debate about how to handle undocumented immigrants i...
#1674 A Chat With Two Brits Who Are Floating the Missouri River From Montana to the Sea
Clay's conversation with Nat and Mikey, schoolteachers from Britain, who are floating down the Missouri and Mississippi Rivers from Three Forks, Monta...
#1673 In the Belly of the Beast
Clay and his friend Russ Eagle discuss John Steinbeck's 1960 Travels with Charley tour of America from within Steinbeck's truck camper Rocinante. Than...
#1672 President Jefferson Discusses America at 250
Guest host David Horton talks with President Thomas Jefferson about the United States as the nation approaches its 250th birthday. Horton asks Jeffers...
#1671 Where Do We Go from Here?
Historian and author David Nicandri joins Clay in the LTA Airstream in Olympia, Washington, for a conversation about lingering mysteries of the Lewis...
#1670 Paddling the Full Lewis and Clark Trail
Clay interviews Montana adventurer Norm Miller, who has undertaken truly heroic canoe and kayak journeys on great rivers of the West. When he was 35,...
#1669 A Conversation About Political Violence in America
In the aftermath of the assassination of Charlie Kirk in Utah, Clay asked his good friend Beau Breslin of Skidmore College to join him in a conversati...
#1668 Bittersweet Homecoming
Clay talks about his 2025 trek across America in his 23-foot Airstream following the Lewis and Clark trail. Clay discusses RV life and provides a sens...
#1667 Lunch With America’s Leading Steinbeck Scholar
Clay and his friend Russ Eagle interview Robert DeMott, one of the greatest living Steinbeck scholars, at his fishing cabin on the Madison River, sout...
#1666 Ten Books on the American Revolution
Frequent guest, Lindsay Chervinsky, makes a late summer appearance to discuss Ten Books on the American Revolution. Ken Burns recently said the Americ...
#1665 Jefferson and Madison on Vacation
Clay's conversation with historian Louis Masur about his new book A Journey North: Jefferson, Madison, & the Forging of a Friendship. In 1791, Thomas...
#1664 The Rivers of the Lewis and Clark Expedition
Clay and his good friend Russ Eagle discuss the rivers Lewis and Clark traveled from Pittsburgh to the Pacific Ocean, including the Ohio, the Mississi...
#1663 Presidential Finances
Clay interviews Megan Gorman, the author of the excellent new book, All the President's Money: How the Men who Governed America Governed their Money....
#1662 Hiking the Pacific Crest Trail
Clay's conversation with Claire Martin, who hiked the entire Pacific Crest Trail in 2020, more than 2,400 miles through some of the most rugged landsc...
#1661 Artificial Intelligence (AI) and a New Constitution for the United States
Frequent guest Beau Breslin of Skidmore College and one of his prize students, Prairie Gunnels, talk about a capstone project for Beau's Introduction...
#1660 Ten Things: The Real Patrick Henry (Live)
Clay's conversation with popular guest Dr. Lindsay Chervinsky on Patrick Henry. Henry began his life as a shopkeeper but rose to become the governor o...
#1659 Theodore Roosevelt in Grand Canyon Country
Clay's conversation with Harvey Leake, the great-grandson of the pioneering southwestern archaeologists John and Louisa Wetherill. Harvey tells the s...
#1658 Jay Carson, Boulder Outdoor Survival School and National Service
Clay's interview with Jay Carson, the executive director of the Boulder Outdoor Survival School (BOSS), located in remote Boulder, Utah. Jay Carson ha...